[Biodiesel In Utah] Gauging Real Interest of WVO need/use in SL County

Graydon Blair graydonblair at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 14 02:56:20 EST 2006


How would this deal with the issue of transporting the grease (the REAL reason it's illegal to collect in SL County?)

The permit is to transport, not to collect the grease. If there was a tank full of WVO put somewhere, what are their plans for dispensing it and getting around the "must be permitted to transport" the grease?

Technically, if it's been rendered or filtered, then we could get around it that way, as the county doesn't consider it a "waste" product once it's been "industrialized".

What would the fee's be to participate in something like this?

Andre Shoumatoff <andre at utahbiodiesel.org> wrote:       I wanted to report that I have been having  discussions with Renegade Oil including an excellent meeting we had last  week up here in Heber City including a tour of our brewing facility, to come up  with a possible solution to the "grease problem" in Salt Lake County.   
  
 The proposed partnership would be a  tank (1000 gallons most  likely) of WVO placed somewhere in Salt Lake City (I am currently exploring  options - I do have some possibles already).  The oil would be available  from a wide diameter spiget to anyone interested.  It would be fully  rendered, no water, would be high quality that will titrate low, and be  filtered to at least 1/4" as part of the agreement.  Currently estimated  cost would be about ~$.85 a gallon to biodieselers (keep in mind they get are  currently getting $1.28 on the market - so this would be a compromise for  them).
  
 At this point, I am trying to gauge how much real  world interest there would be to using this grease, and whether it is worth the  expense of insurance, cost of the tank, etc, that hte biodiesel coop will need  to take on.
  
 How much are people who are brewing willing to use  and would you be willing to pay $.85 a gallon or so to buy clean and legal  oil?  Most of you probably know, the big  deal is that collecting WVO in Salt Lake County is currently  illegal...   Besides that, it takes reasonable infrastructure IMO to  collect grease and do it well, and it seems that biodieselers are giving  biodiesel a bad name because many are giving up after a few months, walking away  from verbal agreements, not picking up barrels when needed, making messes,  etc.  As Renegade put it, we are "their best  salesman."
  
 If you can please post up in response, I am curious  to hear if you guy think. 
  
 Hurtles for us are:
 - Cost of tank, setup, etc.
 - Cost of insurance (re legal for  Renegade).
 - Cost of oil.
 - Finding a location for the oil that someone can  man.
  
 Hurdles for them:
 - Making sure they can deliver.
 - Legal (this is probably the biggest deal breaker  - they have legitimate legal concerns about it that would need to be  addressed).
  
  
 Best, Andre
  
  
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