[Biodiesel In Utah] working together

[p M]

I think some of the initial info we would need in to
consider doing this would be:
1.  Total monthly consumption of biodiesel by the
members of the group to decide if economically
feisable.  I for one would rarely consume more than
100 gal/mo.  It would be wise to put together a
business plan on this idea with the imputs that we
want it to accumplish and what it would cost. 
Important thing is that we all brain storm and put
together out ideas.
2.  Would the Utahbiodiesel.org want to allow us
members to use this tax exempt entity to operate under
if so why can't the .org get a permit and insurance so
any of us can collect and carry grease.
3.  It's not out of the question for the .org to
purchase biodiesel at wholesale discount from out of
state processor and provide it at cost to it's
members.  Collectively we would probably use enought
to justify quantity discounts.  Dal Sogolio buys a
tanker full from Colorado and distributes it to  other
stations.
4.  Other ideas?
Phil Mattingly

--- Andre Shoumatoff <andre at shoumatoffmedia.com>
wrote:

> I am actually in complete support of this concept,
> entirely, but the
> stipulation that I want is that "being a member" of
> the Co-op does not mean
> that you have to participate in a more
> traditionally-cooperative way..  The
> vast majority of members are people who don't have
> time to brew but want to
> keep on using it and showing support for it, so they
> mostly buy it...  
> 
> The big challenges, I think, are mostly financial
> and people working
> together, and coming up with leadership to get it
> going. There is a member
> in Park City (Bill Hartleib) who I will be meeting
> with later today who is a
> strong proponent of this idea, so there is one
> person.  Perhaps the person
> who suggested the idea as #2?   I think if we could
> take say 3 or 4 persons
> in leadership positions, and start working on the
> idea of setting up a
> location, figuring how much each person would have
> to put in, in
> relationship to rent, cost of the equipment,
> cost/time of collecting grease.
> We also have a few insurance agents who are members
> of the Coop who have
> offered to at least persue the idea of insurance,
> both for the facility and
> for necessary permits.  Is anyone else interested in
> this idea?  
> 
> Andre
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at utahbiodiesel.org
> [mailto:list-bounces at utahbiodiesel.org]
> On Behalf Of rtrim at xmission.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:48 PM
> To: list at utahbiodiesel.org
> Subject: Re: [Biodiesel In Utah] working together
> 
> I'm a new member as well. What you are proposing
> seems like a full Co-op. If
> my read is right of what is posted on the
> Utahbiodiesel.org site, they don't
> want to be a full co-op... yet.
> 
> Interesting comment by the guy on the KUER segment
> about transporting human
> waste....Lets see, my 5th wheel trailer carries 47
> gal. of the stuff all
> over the place until I hit a dump station... and
> they're how many hundreds
> of like rigs moving about daily in Utah? Seems a bit
> more risky than a
> barrel of veggie oil.
> 
> It's also interesting that the guy from Renegade
> isn't smart enough to
> figure out that if he gets paid to haul it away and
> can get paid again to
> sell some to us... that's a pretty good business
> model. Yet he expends a
> great deal of energy trying to stop those who are
> willing to pay him. Not
> the sharpest pencil in the pack.
> 
> Bob Trim
> 
> Quoting p M <pmwheels2000 at yahoo.com>:
> 
> > Although I am a newer member of the .org, it seems
> logical that if we 
> > combined out talents, time and resources to
> produce the biodiesel we 
> > would all benefit.
> >
> > Ideas like:
> > 1.  Renting a building where we can make/store the
> stuff and get it 
> > out of our home garages.
> > 2.  Divide and conquer...some of the group be
> responsible for gather 
> > the grease and others to manufacture it 3.  Modest
> fee charged per gal 
> > of use to pay overhead 4.  Investigate discount
> bulk buying from large 
> > producer for the use of our non profit
> organization 5.  Suggestions, 
> > comments?
> > Phil Mattingly
> >
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